msevior ([info]msevior) wrote,
@ 2006-04-16 22:31:00
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Faith restored in Desktop Linux.
I installed Fedora Core 5 on my IBM T43 laptop a few days ago. I waited a while for a new kernel that supported the proprietry ATI 3D drivers.

I'm VERY pleased with the outcome. Firstly the install went like breeze. Video worked, sound worked hardwired network worked.
Next I installed the firmware for the centrino Wireless built into the laptop. Got wireless working with the standard Fedora network tools.

Then did the big update since te DVD was distributed. Around 300 Megabytes! Included was the patched 2.6.16 kernel. After rebooting and downloading the livna rpm to gives access to the grey packages, I installed the ATI 3d driver. It worked like a charm.

Started PowerManager and now the machine suspends to RAM just fine with lid closure. NetworkManager handles different wireless networks beautifully. The video out works nicely so I can make presentations with my laptop ( do a LOT of these now).

Plus there is a whole load of useful goodies in FC5. Gnome-2.14, Beagle, Tomboy, F-Spot are great programs. The FC Extras and Livna repositries now hold a whole slew of useful applications and now the "pirut" graphical interface to yum allows these programs to be discovered and handled easily.

Unfortunately "pirut" has a really dumb behaviour of closing immediately after having installed software. Sum1, our really cool AbiWord bug meister, found that there is a bug for this, and after adding a "Me Too" to complain about this, I discovered that it is possible to load up every thing you want before installing. This wasn't obvious to me and I think most users would find the same thing. Since "pirut" takes a long time to start up, closing the app after a single install really sucks.

Anyway after discovering the right way to use "pirut", via the bug report, it was very easy to find a whole lot of interesting software. (Including the all the patent restricted stuff.)

So in all, I'm very, very happy with FC5 on the T43. Plug and play with USB devices works great. The nautilus based CD and DVD reader and writers "Just Work" beautifully. I'm learning how to use Beagle and desktop search.

I'm looking forward to finishing the integration of AbiWord with Beagle and other search tools via dashboard.

Crossover Office 5 is there when I absolutely must have MS Word and Powerpoint alhough AbiWord is more than enough for almost all my needs now that we have fully integrated Equation support. I've been creating problem sheets and solutions with AbiWord for my 2nd year Thermal Physics classes and it works great. It is much easier and faster than MS Word or OO.o Equation Editors to an old Latex Hack like me.

FC5 definately raises the bar to whole new level for Linux distros. The GL-based Window Managers from Novel and RedHat should make Linux desktop fully competitive with Vista and OSX. There is every chance Novel Linux Desktop-10 will take things this new level, especially since they can ship patent restricted software like mp3 and various video codecs.

Anyway I also wanted to send a big "Congratulations" to the whole community that made FC5 possible. It's great to see how a huge group of competiting and cooperating people can raise the water level so that "everyone floats ups".


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Abiword + Beagle
(Anonymous)
2006-04-17 03:42 am UTC (link)
Please tell me more about this. I hacked together a external beagle filter which uses command line abiword for indexing but this is sub-optimal. Do you have better plans? (particuarly for indexing word docs without using wv)

Other than that I concur, its good to see multiple desktop/enterprise ready and bling filled distros appear at once!

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Re: Abiword + Beagle
[info]msevior
2006-04-17 08:02 am UTC (link)
I talked about server-side abiword using the AbiCommand plugin to do document conversion in this post: http://msevior.livejournal.com/8055.html

It is quite possible to hook a script to use AbiWord+AbiCommand to index arbitray document formats. I even wrote a program to do which will continue of AbiWord crashes. It's in the AbiWord sdk here:

http://www.abisource.com/developers/sdk/index.phtml

A note a warning, AbiWord uses wv to read MS Word documents too. If wv crashes beagle it is likely to crash AbiWord. Please send any documents to the wv maintainer via bug report. The advantage of using the program in the sdk is that it will detect if abiword crashes and restart it.

However that is not what I was talking about. The idea is to use the very interesting dashboard programm (which uses beagle to index your local disk) to provide helpful tips to a write as they type their document in abiword.

AbiWord sends out "clues" about the topic of the document to dashboard which looks to see if it know abut relevent documents on your computer and to bringthem to your attention at the time you need them.

For example if I'm writing about nuclear power and I want to know the China's plans to develop Nuclear POwer, I would hope that dashboard would show the relevent documents I have on my computer from which I can quote and reference.

Well that is the vision. It will be interesting to see if this works.

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FC5 : Is Totem freedb/CDDB enabled?
(Anonymous)
2006-04-17 06:25 am UTC (link)
For FC4 Totem was only a movie player. On my new installation of FC5 Totem is set as the default application for playing audio CDs. Visualization and audio work; however, the playlist is empty/blank. Does Totem have the capability to access a local or online freedb database? I have searched the Gnome/Totem/Gstreamer site and have not found an answer.

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Why not LyX? Absolute best at in-line equation writing!
(Anonymous)
2006-04-17 03:07 pm UTC (link)
If you're an old LaTeX hacker, why not LyX (http://www.lyx.org)? It's in Fedora Extras and works brilliantly, including spellchecker/thesaurus, etc...

In addition to using LyX for engineering whitepapers, I used LyX to teach middle school students for 4 months and generated math and science worksheets and exams in 1/10th the time of a word processor. It was even 2-3x faster than dedicated math worksheet generating Windows programs. All thanx to its in-line equation writing that is just unbeatable.

In any case, good to see someone else who loves Fedora Core 5! Now if Red Hat would only ship an i386 Firefox and Multimedia in the x86-64 version, instead of giving us "plug-in hell" by shipping the a x86-64 Firefox and Multimedia stack. Sigh, well at least after a few manual rpm -e/-Uhv operations, and adding in the i386 repositories, it does updates from both i386 and x86-64, on x86-64, correctly.

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Re: Why not LyX? Absolute best at in-line equation writing!
(Anonymous)
2006-04-17 03:11 pm UTC (link)
BTW, my e-mail address is b.j.smith@ieee.org if you want to talk more about LyX off-board.

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Re: Why not LyX? Absolute best at in-line equation writing!
[info]msevior
2006-04-18 12:48 am UTC (link)
Hi Mr Smith :-)
The reason I use AbiWord is because I'e spent a HUGE amount of time writing it :-) I particularly like the Equation Editor feature because I can type my equations in (and edit them later) in Latex. I spent a lot of time last year making it all work. It's fantastic fun to actually use the fruits of your vision and find that yes, it works just as well as I'd hoped.

I haven't tried LyX in a couple of years, however given it's now in FC5 extras I'll give a whirl and see what it's like.

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Re: Why not LyX? Absolute best at in-line equation writing!
[info]gleblanc
2006-04-18 03:35 am UTC (link)
Hi Martin! Is the equation editor in Abiword 2.4.4 (the one shipping with FC5 extras, I think), or do I need something newer? I've got a fair bit of text that, lately, has been getting typed up using MathType, since $ork has a copy, but that means using Windows and their computers, which I'd rather not do! TTYL

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Re: Why not LyX? Absolute best at in-line equation writing!
[info]msevior
2006-04-18 04:57 am UTC (link)
Hi Greg!
FC5 contains the Equation Editor. Unfortunately we cannot import or export equations from or to any other format yet :-(

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